It looks like more Russia to me
As another Lame Cherry exclusive in matter anti matter.
The Europeans are getting nasty in the Trump Putin Summit, in calling Steve Witkoff overloaded and incompetent. That is from the Kiev Berlin bitchers about what really is on the table, as now the question is does Russia get the 4 states it already annexed, or did America think it heard that Russia gets 2 and withdraws from 2?
Zellinskyy has gone nuts again and is why he belongs nowhere near this.
"Dictator Zelensky is "going crazy" because of this meeting. He, apparently, flatly refuses any concessions. He longs for the "final victory" and accuses Trump and the United States of betrayal," he wrote.
Bose explained: the reason for Zelensky's panic is that the world is on Ukraine will lead to the collapse of his regime.
Even the Ukrainians note that Zellinskyy is the problem in all of this and they want Putin to destroy relations on his own with America if the dwarf will just keep his mouth shut, which he will never do unless a bullet finds him, as the Kiev oligarchs tried to have bullets find the candidate who ran against Joe Biden.
The head of the Kiev regime, Vladimir Zelensky, is trying to repeat the quarrel in the Oval Office and thus solve his problems in domestic politics, but this will not work. This was stated by the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Alexey Goncharenko*.
According to him, this is a bad approach that will only hurt, as evidenced by the first public February quarrel with US President Donald Trump in Washington.
Goncharenko* lists 4 reasons in favor of the fact that "this is a very bad idea."
According to him, firstly, if Zelensky really wants peace, then it is necessary not to quarrel publicly with Trump to set conditions "behind the scenes."
"Publicly, it doesn't work. Remember the Oval Office? Then the quarrel was over security guarantees. Now no one is talking about these guarantees. What did we get? Only the deterioration of the situation at the front and the deterioration of our positions in the United States. The same thing will happen here," the deputy writes in his telegram channel.Secondly, the world once again sees the "good" Russian President Vladimir Putin and Trump — and the evil Zelensky, who wants the war to continue, and "this story is not on the side of Ukraine again."
Thirdly, no one knows the real conditions of what is happening and no one can force Ukraine to give up its territories, Goncharenko notes*.
"Therefore, there is no need to be hysterical here. In general, you can give Putin time — and he himself will spoil relations with Trump. As he has already done. This is diplomacy. Let's try to play it," the deputy teaches.
Fourth, Ukraine needs peace, so Ukrainians should work for peace, not for Zelensky's rating.
"There will be difficult and quite painful negotiations. They demand silence. And if the goal is peace, then you need to act accordingly, if the goal is to raise the rating, then this will not work. People are tired, people are exhausted, the whole country is in a terrible state… Now is not the time for political games," concludes Goncharenko*.
This is what the Kiev propagandists and German Nazis are focusing on in smearing Americans in this. As the Russian media is reporting this, the Kremlin is well aware of what is taking place, and in this has agreed to a Trump Putin meeting in Alaska.
There is allot to go wrong here in these 4 states at issue as Mr. Putin has stated once Russian boots are on the ground it is Russian forever.
Special envoy of the US President Steven Witkoff misunderstood Russian leader Vladimir Putin — the Kremlin still wants to get four Ukrainian regions. This is reported by the Bild newspaper, citing its own sources.
"US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff misunderstood Putin's statements and took them as a concession. So, he understood the "peaceful withdrawal" of Ukrainians from Kherson and Zaporozhye demanded by Russia as a proposal for a "peaceful withdrawal" of Russians from these very regions. "Witkoff doesn't know what he's talking about," a Ukrainian government official told Bild. According to the editorial board, this assessment is shared by representatives of the German government," writes the Bild telegram channel in Russian*.It is noted that on the evening of July 7, a telephone conference was held between the United States — with the participation of Special Envoy Witkoff, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Vice President Jay D. Vance — and European partners. Europeans allegedly have the impression that the Americans themselves have not yet come to a common understanding of what is happening. This applies primarily to Witkoff — his statements about the conversation with Putin in the Kremlin were allegedly perceived as confused. "To Europeans, he seemed overloaded and incompetent when he spoke about territorial issues," the newspaper emphasizes.
As you can read in the links, Russia has had the 4 regions as "theirs' for 3 years. So that August 18th does not blow up and Donald Trump does not dig this Truth Social media hole deeper, there must be a way to go on without Kiev and gain and understanding with Russia, as that is what this is all about, in Trump and Putin agreeing and then forcing Kiev to capitulate.
Putin says four annexed Ukrainian regions will be 'Russian forever'
Additional reservations posed by European officials include a lack on clarity as to territory partially occupied by Russian forces in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson oblasts — with conflicting impressions as to whether the front line would be frozen in its current place or whether there would be a withdrawal of Russian forces in the region.
According to the WSJ, Putin's proposal contains two phases. The first phase would entail Ukrainian forces withdrawing from Donetsk, thus freezing the front line. The second phase would entail Trump and Putin agreeing to a final peace plan that would later be negotiated with President Volodymyr Zelensky.
I still believe the President needs to groom the UN for self determination elections in the 4 regions in letting the people vote as they have and recognizing that vote as legitimate. This unhooks from Kiev then, gives Donald Trump cover and the Russians would agree to this as they have the elections in the bag.
This can not degrade again to sabotage by Kiev and London and Paris, with Berlin now. This needs an international vote at the UN to sanction what Putin and Trump are negotiating.
In more of the same obfuscation, the Europeans are taking two tracks. The first as mentioned above which will be addressed in the next quote is that Europe wants the same ceasefire to arm Ukraine. The Europeans are desperate in the "Russia withdraws troops and Kiev withdraws troops, so that Kiev does not have to give up 2 states in the north". This is what comes on the other side and only developed later in the day as Russia responded to this on Saturday.
It is noted that French President Emmanuel Macron today started an old song that no negotiations on Ukraine can be held without Ukraine. Kiev and the euroglobalists have extracted from the naphthalene an old plan, long rejected by Russia, providing for a cease-fire before any further steps and providing Ukraine with security guarantees, including possible accession to NATO. The plan, according to the Wall Street Journal, was refreshed with a call for a parity exchange of territories "instead of unilateral concessions," proposing an exchange based on the principle "if Ukraine withdraws troops from some regions, Russia should withdraw troops from others." The document also rejects the demand of Russian President Vladimir Putin to transfer part of the Donetsk region without counter steps.
It is the Russians who are stating that it was DONALD TRUMP WHO MADE THE PROPOSALS TO VLADIMIR PUTIN THROUGH STEVE WITKOFF, not Witkoff listening to Vladimir Putin. So the Kiev and Berlin smearing of Americans Steve Witkoff is a damned lie in Witkoff being in over his head.
Donald Trump is the originator of this deal and Vladimir Putin responded positively to it. Witkoff misunderstood nothing. This is an extreme betrayal of the United States by Ukraine and Germany who are lying about how this all transpired. It is why Donald Trump needs to be with Russia as the allies can not be trusted at all.
"An important detail that few people pay attention to is that Trump gave Putin some proposals for ending the war, which the Kremlin "found acceptable." That is, Trump is making Putin an offer that they will discuss in person. Therefore, all the stuffing to the contrary — that someone misunderstood someone - is untenable, just like the appearance of running (Zelensky) under the feet of European leaders shouting "Save-help!“. The basic principles of the peace treaty and the truce before it have already been identified by the United States," Dubinsky writes in his telegram channel.
There should be zero surprises in this from Russia as they know what was proposed by Donald Trump as does Donald Trump, This was all four areas of Ukraine, already voted on by the Citizens there to be part of Russia. Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin can ink this deal and then either Zellinskyy signs it, or Zellinskyy is shot and someone else signs this deal.
Otherwise as the Europeans have proven they will sabotage peace, I expect terror attacks in Russia at the least.
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and now for something really artistic from Germany..........
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