As another Lame Cherry exclusive in matter anti matter.
Once upon a time, all I shot was Winchester, when the Olin brand still was functioning in a pro America business. They had superior ammo, but when it comes now to things like 45 ACP, their ammo is dirty in firing. That all makes a negative in a meltdown situation where cleaning guns is a necessity and you do not have the ability to clean them
Back in the day John Olin turned out more 94 lever action Winchesters than there were trees to hide behind. Forest dwellers at the cheap 150 dollar guns up, along with the ammo at 6 dollars a box. he 30 30 was the chosen round, and it could be had in 150 and 170 grain loadings.
The gun press in America, funded by Olin hated the 30 30, which was actually a groundbreaking round back in the 1894 era in a 30 caliber smokeless round for deer and bear hunting, but compared to the 30.06, it was just underpowered and short range. Fact is though the Germans loved these little rimmed cartridges as they were accurate in the forest and they had little recoil. The 30 30 in a bolt action rifle really was a good hunting load.
The ammo boys back in the 80's though got bright ideas about upgrading the 358 or 356 to something and no one still wanted the loads. Then came in that era, of French sabots loading light bullets into 30.06 to make a 4000 foot per second round. The 30 30 was downloaded to 125 grain bullets which made a choppy 30 caliber load and as you still see these attempts in handguns of light bullets to increase speed, they have a following, but people with sense just shoot moderate loads, at moderate speeds with a moderate bullet, and you kill things. That was the German maxim in their 7 x 57 Mauser which killed slews of English, Russians, French and Americans, along with elephants and antelope. It is a fine round like all German rounds are from the 8 x 57 to the 9.3 x 64.
Anyway I got my 30 30 as a child for 90 dollars, used. I have poached 2 deer with it over the years. One was a cripple and one was just standing in a child's swing set. Both were welcome food. The government still owes me an elk with interest along with 600 dollars in bounty.
I purchased cheap Remington Core Lokt ammo for my gun and I think I shot about 9 shells through it. I do not waste ammo. I chose the 150 grain round, even if the 170 is probably better in a soft point bullet.
As the meltdown was coming, I needed still some 30 30 ammo. I was not paying 28 dollars a box to over that.
Midway though was dumping inventory like all American business this past summer and I noticed in surfing that they had Winchester 30 30 ammo, 150 grain for 20.01. That price interested me and I clicked on the ADD to cart, before I really read that Winchester had been tinkering with this load too, in they put a hollow point in it.
When I spotted that, I stopped the buying process as I do not sucker for hollow points, unless they are Winchester 22 HP rounds in 36 grains. I have shot them for years with wonderful results in killing lots of things. As we are going to enter a poaching era of survival, I have used the 22 grain hollow point with great effect on pheasants, by shooting them in the ribs. It blows their lungs out, does not ruin any meat, and it kills lovely. I suspect it would kill turkeys with as lovely as remedy, but that would be in an era when all gopher police are hiding from the Russians, Chinese and Mexicans, and no longer hunting Americans for profit. Just information that will save you from having to figure things out as the Brier already went over that survival ground.
So I started reading the feedback on the cartridges and it was all positive. That was interesting to me, but I knew when I was reading things that I was reading Southern hunters who have little bitty deer the size of poodles, so I kind of frowned as for the price I was saving, I could limit my shooting.......and then I found a mule deer hunter, 125 yard shot, and the buck died. Mule deer are large like Illinois whitetails are heavy deer.
I had a Great Uncle, Tony, he still talked like he was German who lived in that area and he had a dream about shooting a big buck. He talked to the farmer, and the farmer told him in the dream, that the buck was feeding in the silage pile. When Tony got to the farm, the conversation was exactly like he dreamed it.
Of course my asshole old man, and his brothers loved picking on Tony, so they asked him if he got the buck with one shot like in the dream. Tony would not lie as Heaven depended on it, and he admitted it took more than one shot. They burst out with a roar of laughter, and said his dreaming needed improvement.
It was mean, but that was the boys and Uncle Tony. I greatly loved and admired him. I thought the dream was really interesting in it's Prophetic reality. I miss him greatly.
So that is why wen I read that the hollow point was doing good work on a big male deer, that impressed me as a killing load, which would included marauding two leggers if that was the condition of protecting our lives. I ordered the ammo.
I have not studied this Winchester load, but the way thee feedback on autopsy results was written by hunters, it seems the hollow point opens up savagely for energy transfer on impact with the slow moving 30 30 loading in 150 grains. That is the bad part of hollow points is blow up and not a great deal of penetration on heavy tissue or bone. What I think Winchester did though was they put a partition like Nosler invented for the solid core behind the hollow point. This drives through and carries the impact into the animal and through it. It really is the best of both worlds for this load. I doubt this would work on elk or buffalo, being heavier creatures, but maybe in some type of elephant gun this load might do the work. I think of Osa Johnson's 9.3 German in how a hollow point with a Nosler base would probably knock the hell out of lions which she shot.
So that is the ammo review. I needed to top off the 30 30 reservoir as 31 rounds would not last till Jesus came back and God dropped the prices and provided me with what I believe will be a good load for protection and hunting. The 94 is built for carry and that is what people do in a meltdown, they carry things with them which is why I want ammo for this gun. I do not want to depend on military FMJ ammo on 223 from Lake City. God has been good again to me.
Allot of preparing in the details, make me believe the things we are in the midst of will be full bore in the next years.
PS: The picture does not show a partition. Interesting in Winchester has this lead core hold together as the Remington loads always shrapnel in degrading on bone.
Nuff Said
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