Saturday, December 7, 2024

Trump and the Back Door




As another Lame Cherry exclusive in matter anti matter.


The Lame Cherry appreciates that the Russian Government is reviewing the floated plans by the President elect, Donald Trump, over Peace in Ukraine. Instead of just bitching about things as most do in ignorance, I read the Kellogg Plan, and I do not agree with it, as it is a boobytrap of things that Russia will reject, from foreign troops, security arrangements with America and Ukraine not recognizing Russian states which voted to be part of Russia.

What I choose to do though in not focusing on the negotiating points is to instead focus on Point 5 which is what I hope happens. Point 5 in the Trump plan states that if Ukraine refused to negotiate peace, the United States stops military assistance to Ukraine. That is what I hope Kiev does and by this Donald Trump can have America shed of this shit hole.

What I would see is America, via Berlin would then shift behind the scenes to supplying Ukraine with weapons, through Paris and Berlin. The Lame Cherry does not want this, but the point in this is getting America unhooked from all of this and away from it, so it stops being a tripwire of war with Russia. Once America has left the building, the Germans can work what they want with troop deployments as that becomes a Moscow Berlin situation. The Trump Administration can then distance itself and state, there is not going to be any Article 5 in troops being attacked while in Ukraine. That ends Americans ever fighting in this for the next 12 years.

So the key to this is not what Russia or DC says, but the key is keeping those John the hero McCain with Obama flakes whispering to Zellinskyy neocon and kaganite unctions, as I don't care a rat's ass what these people do as they can jack off to this, as America is away from this.

The President elect has spoken of shifting out of Europe and making Europe a security matter for Europeans. There is no problem of the United States being the arsenal as long as we are not sending troops, so yes, when this European Security Group arises, America can bring it's troops out of Europe as an unnecessary expense.


One of the first versions of the plan of the future possible special envoy of the elected US President Donald Trump for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, has become publicly available. The document, prepared in April by him together with the vice-chairman of the Center for American Security at the America First Policy Institute, Frederick Fleitz, was published by the Center for Eastern Studies (OSW, .pdf ).

Keith Kellogg

Keith Kellogg


Keith Kellogg

Photo: Carlos Barria/File Photo, Reuters

The plan consists of five main points. The first is to end Russia's isolation and establish contacts with President Vladimir Putin. The second point proposes to put pressure on Moscow and Kyiv and bring the parties to the negotiating table.

The third condition assumes that the issue of Ukraine's membership in NATO will not be considered for ten years, and that Russia will retain its new territories. The document also talks about the gradual lifting of sanctions and the normalization of relations with the United States, provided that a peace treaty "acceptable to Ukraine" is concluded.

The fourth point concerns providing Kyiv with bilateral security guarantees and military support. Ukraine will be allowed not to recognize Russian control over the territories, but it will be prohibited from resolving issues by force. The fifth point is the condition that Washington will stop military assistance if Kyiv refuses to negotiate peace.


It is critical that this happens in America gets out of this. The Russians have some expanded weapons appearing in the Hazel, making it longer range. That again though is a positive as conventional warheads blowing up Minot and Whiteman in the interior of America is better than nuclear pollution killing Reagan's political children who are the targets and the group who voted for peace with Russia 3 times for Mr. Trump.



Donald Trump appears he knows he can not be bogged down in this consuming negotiations. He either gets his Minsk 3 or he walks out the door and does not look back. He can not be holding Zellinskyy's dwarf penis waiting for his erection of war to ejaculate more spew. Donald Trump needs as two edge sword in this which cuts both ways. If the Russians do not play ball, then the imperative is to go to an economic front as Russia will begin producing 1400 tanks a year. This is the Putin economy and in that, Russia could take Europe at huge cost, but it could never hold Europe.

There is hope in this that Donald Trump has two back doors and both are exits to get America out of Ukraine which is beyond vital to US interests as the US has no interest in Ukraine.


Nuff Said



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