As another Lame Cherry exclusive in matter anti matter.
I'm pleased that there are heart broken dreamers like myself who have for most of the American period have had ideas of going where no fruit tree had gone before. The thing in vogue in Jefferson's time in Europe and America were Orangariusm, where citrus was attempted to be grown in places they should not.
I read where Jefferson recorded his greenhouse was in the 20's while his bedroom was in the 30's. Apparently Jefferson had not heard of indoor heating as having frost on his balls in bed was what kept him lively.
I do remember my dad stating as a kid, getting up and having to break ice on the water pale. So Grandpa must have been a bit phobic of using wood and coal too.
This is about peaches though and I have my ideas about them in years of research, where I read in Colorado growers did use fan forced heat from 100 foot underground circles of pipe to keep a greenhouse alive. I'm not talking about heat to grow orchids. I'm talking about heat to keep a peach or that class alive from Zone 3 climates.
I read threads and I hate those people. They never have any information worth a damn. I know one guy mentioned about growing peaches in Rochester Minnesota, and some asshole kept brining up microclimates as his idea that he had some knowledge. This guy had planted his peach tree on the north side of the house so it did not come out of dormancy, as he was mistaken in part that it was the buds that got killed. The thing that kills peach trees is frost into the roots. That is what kills things in the Brier. We get a few good years and then wham the frost gets into the ground deep and the peach roots die.
Peach buds will take some horrid cold, to even belows zero, but not forever extended periods of time. The roots are different. They can not take their roots frozen as it shatters the root cells.
So I ponder things in I stupidly bought another peach tree from those scoundrels at Stark. This was a Star variety. All of those come out of Michigan breeding. Stark lists this variety as zone 4........another site in Michigan lists it as Zone 5.
I just know this baby is staying in the planter and inside until I can root some cuttings and have more to play with as trees are too expensive to lose now.
So I got this Blushing Star, and it is in the planter. Will come in, in a few days when the temps get into the 20's, and then back outside. Too much hauling and pampering but, I do not have an unheated garage and as this thing has some flower buds on it...............not going to lose them as I at least want to smell what a peach blossom stinks like.
I was reading a thread in which a family from Veblen South Dakota raised peaches. Soil is wetter now due to HAARP so maybe the chems help. They got peaches and I think the variety was Reliance. The head chief there mentioned this about his Uncle in North Dakota, same vicinity who grew peaches in the stone ages, but he built a hay bale dome to overwinter. They work great for cattle and chickens, so I suspect a version of this might be in the offing, but uffdah lugging bales around is allot of work for a peach to eat.
Your success reminds me of how my great-uncle wanted to prove peaches could be grown on his farm in southeastern North Dakota, which he accomplished by surrounding the peach tree top to bottom with an igloo of straw bales every winter.
Again in donations coming in, I would buy some big hay bales which would need a tractor to stack, to take the labor out. Those a like 4 feet by 6 feet or something. The point being it would not take many to build a home for a peach tree which is the point. I want to use them to build cattle shelters too.....again the need for deadbeats to donate.
So I'm doing my research yet. Echo discusses things like me and does the math on air flow rates and pipe diameters, and I do more of the ideas for Echo to build on and we are coming to a point of some kind of Peacharium is going to have to be built. I have ideas like corn cribbing and other things, but I like the hay bales, just make sure voles do not eat the bark off in that hay bale home and things should be pretty kosher.
A gal did provide a link in one thread and I have been reading a historical book on Peaches in Kansas. Fascinating as when I visited that shit hole state, you could not find a fruit orchard and Kansas used to be full of peach orchards listed in Zone 6.
A HISTORY OF THE PEACH IN KANSAS
So it is an interesting read in more information and details on peaches for the survivalist as these were orchards from the Bloody Kansas period when the Indians got chased out, so this was Kansas in pretty good weather back in the mid to late 1800's.
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