Tuesday, January 20, 2015

green sweet




As another Lame Cherry exclusive in matter anti matter.

I offer this as an example of the complexity of growing things people eat, as the soil actually does affect the flavor of any crop due to nutrients, PH, moisture and trace elements.
In this, a treatise from 1841, I found myself wondering in the explanation of apples American east and west, how many which were well known and popular, are either now extinct or never tasted by anyone, and yet they were so important to people in the early 19th century.

We have long observed that many varieties of apples, which are good bearers when grown in strong and rather moist soil, for example the Pickman Pippin, Williams's Favorite, Blue Permain, Roxbury Russet, Eso-pus Spitzenberg, and Ribstone Pippin, are generally poor bearers, upon a light sandy loam; while the Baldwin, Yellow Bellflower, Hubbardston Nonsuch, Danvers Winter Sweet, and Fall Harvey, grow and bear well upon a light soil;

the Baldwin and Hubbardston Nonsuch seem to accommodate themselves to almost every variety of soil and situation.


Many varieties of applies, which are first rate in quality when grown in our southern cities, — for example, the Newtown Pippin, and Pennock's Red Winter, are inferior to the Lyscom, Fall Harvey, and many others, when grown in our soil.

Manning, Robert, 1784-1842. The New England book of fruit


The Pippin was the English original, akin to the Red Delicious, but the Americans progressed in the New England apples of Spitzenberg, Russet and Baldwin became the standard.
The melancholy in this is an apple like Blue Permain which is unheard of now.

I realize that many apples of heirloom status are not much better than a sour apple tree, but I do wonder of these apples in how much they should be introduced into apple breeding programs, to experience what might arise with a modern variety like Fireside or Honeycrisp.

It should be a reality that our peoples in the Slavic lands, Argentina and Chile, with Australia and and America should progress a breeding program of apples not in the thousands but 1 million varieties, being maintained, not just on sweet or tart, but different fruit flavors from banana to apple.
The world has not yet tapped the flavors of what apples are capable of in designer flavors.

It saddens me in commercial agriculture that there are barely 5 varieties ever offered, when apples of different varieties should be included in every bag.

There were apples called Minister, Swaar and Red Doctor. Early Bough sometimes called Washington. A yellow apple called Drap d'Or with small black pips on it. Some apples like Swaar ripen in December being very late, as God made apples to bear fruit from June to February apparently.........and finally if this apple even exists any more, there is Green Sweet.

"This apple is of small size, round, and rather flat; the skin at maturity is a dull green, approaching to yellow; the flesh very sweet and good. It is in use during the winter months, and can be brought to market later in the spring than any other sweet apple. Much cultivated in the north part of Essex county, Mass.
 [This variety retains its juice longer in the spring than any sweet apple we possess ]



What is being lost or is lost, in here is an apple which kept in storage without modern gas house methods, making fruit all taste horrid, and still is in a good condition.

Imagine if the University of Minnesota had crossed these genes if they still exist into a Honeycrisp. An apple not costing a fortune to store in climate controled storage.

Green Sweet, a sweet green apple, how amazing.

This was the 1841 list of apples for gardens in America and Europe. It is a reality that most of the apples below could not be found today even if you desired them.

A selection of sixteen sorts of apples for a garden. — Early Harvest, Early Sweet Bough, Summer Rose, Maiden's Blush, Aunt Hannah, Minister, Swaar, Roxbury Russet, Fall Harvey, Green Sweet, Porter, Gravenstein, Hubbardston Nonsuch, Lyscom, Baldwin, Danvers Winter Sweet.

A selection of nine sorts for a small garden. — Early Harvest, Early Sweet Bough, Minister, Swaar, Fall Harvey, Porter, Baldwin, Danvers Winter Sweet, Gravenstein.

Manning, Robert, 1784-1842. The New England book of fruit


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